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17 Dec 2021 22:55:21
Wow not sure you could write this rubbish, a new President and the first on his list is rule breaking by Lewis for not attending the F1 Gala. The best bit was the backtracking on rules that are broken by human's it feels like a film script. Obviously written by someone who has no idea about was has gone on just a few day's ago, I'am with you Ed i'am out unless they change things.

{Ed001's Note - it won't change sadly. They wouldn't back Masi if they were looking to make change.}

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16 Dec 2021 11:35:11
So merc drop the protest and appeal.

Honestly I'm not that surprised, not that I particularly like max but whoever ended up with the title is always going to have it tainted by this mess now and that's not fair on either driver.

Let's hope the review promised by the FIA brings the needed clarity, I would imagine masi will be replaced, ultimately it was his terrible decision, and not his first either

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13 Dec 2021 19:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Formula 1: Abu Dhabi Talking Points

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13 Dec 2021 20:40:46
As not an avid f1 follower I was confused in the previous race when max was unhappy about a five second penalty but was happy not to mention momments after Hamilton pitted under a virtual safety car the race was red flagged, max had got a free overtake, track position and a free tyre change worth twenty seconds plus.
In yesterday's race if the intension was to twist rules so the race didn't end behind a safety car then just red flag the race with four laps left and they can all put new slicks on and have a fair shoot out . This maybe isn't how the rules work but nor was what happened and Hamilton wasn't even given a sporting chance .
If Hamilton had changed tyres and the rules weren't twisted and the race ended behind a safety car then Mercedes would have looked insane .
Its hard to form any conclusion other than decisions off track meant max won the championship regardless of how skilled max was all year .

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14 Dec 2021 03:45:06
that is the problem mate, they could easily have red flagged so that the race could have been a real race. But they wouldn't have got the result they wanted that way, as Hamilton was clearly faster and would have just driven away from him again.

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16 Dec 2021 10:33:04
And Mercedes withdraw their appeal. Todt presumably visited Mercedes headquarters with a briefcase full of money.

{Ed001's Note - more likely because it is pointless appealing to the same people who made the decision and would only make it even more difficult next season.}

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13 Dec 2021 01:50:38
This might be the day I have fallen out of love with this sport.

A ridiculous decision from the race director to manufacture a world championship change.

If he follows the regulations as, apart from certain heavy wet races, they always have before, then the race finished behind the safety car. Instead he, let's be kind and say bent the existing rules, to deliberately go racing when one car is a sitting duck.

Then you dismiss clear evidence of an overtake under the safety car because he wasn't ahead at the safety car line. Not sure that is in the regulations but there you go.

It makes a mockery of the sport frankly.

{Ed001's Note - I am with you on this. What is the point in watching it when the result is going to be decided by the race director? If I wanted to watch fake sports, I would be watching wrestling, not motor racing.}

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13 Dec 2021 02:13:57
I’d go even further Ed and say what’s the point in having regulations in the first place if you allow one man to unilaterally bend them to suit his mood.

Teams rely on the rules being the rules.

This isn’t even about who won. It’s about the integrity of a sport I’ve loved since I was a boy.

Charlie Whiting must be spinning in his grave.

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. What is to stop a team now fitting a bigger engine? Or anything they feel like doing as the rules are not there to be adhered to any more.}

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13 Dec 2021 10:03:36
I thinking about this earlier Ed and I would be interested on your take.

During the Mercedes protest Red Bull where allowed to attend as an interested party. Why?

Surely it isn't Red Bull's job to justify a decision made by the race director on a technical matter.

Even if you argue they have a right to be there - why didn't they then invite the other teams in? The decision to let those five cars go impacted on the cars behind them and so those teams would also have had something to say.

{Ed001's Note - you are right, it should be either all there or no one, as a technical ruling like this impacts them all in the future as well. No one now knows what the rules actually are as the race director will just make them up as he goes along to make sure that they get the right result.}

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12 Dec 2021 19:33:28
Hi Ed might this have more to do with voting in the replacement for Jean Todt not sure what connections the Barrister Stoker has or the ex rally driver Suleymen has. Intriging though can't that outcome would have happened of it wasn't a Champuonship decider, race would have finished under the safety car regs.

{Ed001's Note - you could be right, F1 has always had a lot of politics involved.}

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12 Dec 2021 15:29:40
Lets home merc and redbull fall of a cliff next year. let's have Ferrari vs Mclaren 2022.

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12 Dec 2021 18:53:11
Let's try having clear and enforced rules first.

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12 Dec 2021 21:10:49
F1 over the past decade or so has become harder and harder to watch in terms of interest and excitement. For me however that will be it, it has taken what was once the most exciting and glamorous sport on Earth and turned it into WWE. I certainly have no interest in paying to watch that nonsense.

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12 Dec 2021 15:17:51
Hmmm. Didn't want Lewis to win but that was some dodgy ending, no?

If I remember correctly, when letting lapped cars go through on a safety car, you're meant to wait for them to rejoin at the back of the pack before the SC can come in.

I understand that they want to end with a proper race, but rules are there for a reason and what they did there was kind of bull.

I'd like to see some strong changes made for next season regarding how much the team can talk to the FIA during the race. The way they influence the decisions is just totally wrong.

{Ed001's Note - correct they are meant to rejoin the train. They have engineered a win for Verstappen there.}

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12 Dec 2021 17:46:21
It was like watching WWF. The people responsable should be unemployed, it's made a mockery of the sport.

{Ed001's Note - it will be interesting to see how they wriggle out of the Mercedes protest, as they clearly broke their own rules. What is the point in having them if the organisers are going to ignore them? I mean if they can ignore them, there is nothing to stop the teams ignoring them.}

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12 Dec 2021 18:16:25
Exactly Ed seems like they have no to go. A crazy decision just to go Racing for 1 unfair Lap. Do you see Masi leaving his job before next season. It feels like Racing for Racings sake, anything to gain TV audience to earn more money. A bit lile football anything to create controversy.

{Ed001's Note - Masi has done what his bosses want, so he will be fine I expect.}

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12 Dec 2021 18:19:31
I think it looks so bad, Hamilton was clearly the superior driver and car today .
Hamilton was presented a no win situation he couldn't pit for tyres as verstappen would stay out and gain track position and if the rules are followed the race would end behind a safety car and not pitting meant a 1 lap shootout with a large red bull tyre advantage .
Mercedes can't decide wether to pit or not by guessing if rules will be followed .

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12 Dec 2021 18:44:44
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a merc boycott of next year or even total removal from the sport if the result stands…

FIA have messed this right up, it’s not RB or Max’s fault either it’s just totally inept running and expecting constructors to remain in championship where you are basically going to bend the rules to your will isn’t exactly enticing.

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12 Dec 2021 18:48:23
Soon to find out what the outcome is for now.

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12 Dec 2021 19:09:22
Thats that for now then.

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12 Dec 2021 19:32:19
It looks like a bad decision but within Mercs protest being thrown out it ultimately comes down to the race director to decide when the safety car comes in.

Within the report it appears all the teams requested that where possible, the race was to finish within race conditions.

Contentious decision but I think if you start overturning results it could open up a huge can of worms.

For instance, city got a pen yesterday that wasn't a pen, if city win the league do Liverpool and Chelsea appeal because by the rules they wouldn't of won?

The whole race director role needs reforming 100% and bosses shouldn't be able to talk to the ref effectively mid race, its like klopp getting in VAR's ear when a decision goes against him. But for me you cannot overturn it, Max didn't do anything wrong and changing results isn't the way forward imo.

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12 Dec 2021 19:39:42
The stewards and fia have said under 15. Somethign the race director has overriding authority on the decisions so Mercedes protests have been denied. So basically Masi can do whatever he wants

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12 Dec 2021 19:45:25
What a farce. I'm not watching F1 if they're going to bend the rules like that.

If they wanted to race they should have left all cars where they were when the safety car comes in. Max would have likely caught and overtook Lewis anyway, as the 5 lapped cars in front of Max would have moved over for him, while he was also on brand new red wall tyres.

Just having the safety car would likely have won Max the race, they didn't need to fix it like they did. Disgusting.

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12 Dec 2021 20:19:20
Merc apparently going to take this to CAS.

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12 Dec 2021 20:50:00
To be world champion all Hamilton needs to know is what the rules are, the race will re start or it won't.
If it will he pits if it won't then he won't pit .
He wasn't given that info so had to assume rules would be followed . They were not so every scenario was for Hamilton to lose .
Does anyone believe he wasn't the fastest driver in the fastest car in that race

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12 Dec 2021 22:01:51
Slate, being the fastest driver/fastest car doesn't guarantee a win. Just like football otherwise man city would never lose.

The issue is, did Masi bend the rules under pressure from Horner.

Normally under the safety car, lapped cars would join the back of the grid, they would then be another lap before the safety car pits. If that happened today Ham would win and the race would finish behind the safety car.

Crucially in the rules it stipulates it is under the race directors discretion when it comes in. And that overrides the above rule. Effectively covering their ass. And for that reason I'm not too sure what Merc can appeal.

Moving forward it needs ironing out and the race directors role needs to be black and white. However, today as the rules sit, I think its Max's race and dragging it all out only tarnishes the sport further imo.

Football learnt from mistakes with goal line tech and vAR. F1 needs to do the same here to Improve for the future.

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13 Dec 2021 00:11:45
But that isn't quite what the rules say.

They say that All the lapped cars are to move off and the safety car is to move I to the pits on the next lap. Which means no racing.

The rules also say once the safety car in this lap has been sent to all teams the safety car comes in.

So what we have is a contrived situation unprecendented in F1 which leaves the two championship contenders in a situation with one lap to go where the reality is only one can win through the rule being implemented in a way it was never designed for.

It absolutely stinks.

If you wanted fair there were options, red flag and have a shoot out for a lap or two.

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13 Dec 2021 00:21:18
Pressed send too quick it's rules 48.12 and 48.13.

The fact is rule .12 was used to allow the 5 cars between Hamilton and verstappen to pass and rule .13 was used to ensure the others didn't.

The rules were implemented to ensure an outcome that wasnt possible escape possible. What should have happened is

.12 all the lapped cars passed the safety car which ensured the race finished under a safety car.

.13 was implanted which ensured it restarted and Veratappen had to get past the lapped cars, in total 5.

These two options are what has previous been done.

Neither results in a Verstappen win so a decision is made to do something different .

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13 Dec 2021 00:29:43
They should get rid of all the discretionary rules and appoint a panel to inure they are followed or risk losing what little credibility is left. It very annoying because it could be so great.

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12 Dec 2021 13:49:45
Can someone just tell me WTF Bottas brings to the table? Perez have just done MV a massive solid here. Where is Bottas?

{Ed001's Note - brilliant piece of racing by Perez though.}

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12 Dec 2021 14:50:14
What was that at the end I’ve just seen the fia giver Verstappen the title. Wat a Bizzare decision they only let five cars past which isn’t the rules

{Ed001's Note - and the weaving all over the track is an automatic 5 second penalty.}

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12 Dec 2021 15:05:50
He was ahead of Hamilton behind the safety car at numerous points which isn’t allowed why did Masi change his decision for the last half of the lap. ?

{Ed001's Note - to give the win to Max obviously.}

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12 Dec 2021 15:08:11
Well that was engineered at the end for Max to win. Very vague rules if there left to the clark pf the course on the day.

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12 Dec 2021 15:09:30
That was so suspect, even for the FIA.

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12 Dec 2021 15:21:55
Can’t mercedess take them to court? That’s four rules they broke. Why is this allowed to happen, Hamilton is the better driver and beat him easily

{Ed001's Note - they can do.}

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12 Dec 2021 15:28:27
Max got the luck today. Over the course of the season he deserves the championship. Well done to him. Well done to Ham taking it to the last race.

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12 Dec 2021 15:59:53
I can't believe what I have seen today

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12 Dec 2021 20:04:57
My love for the sport just took a blow. Not because Max won but because this is blatant cheating. Short of words

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24 Nov 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Formula 1: Saudi Arabia Talking Points

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05 Dec 2021 21:36:16
I wonder what type of accident it will take for Max to tone his driving down a little bit.

He's phenomenally quick but the move out of the way or we crash attitude is going to get somebody hurt one day.

{Ed001's Note - that is a good question.}

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06 Dec 2021 06:24:01
Really interesting stewards decision don’t you think Ed.

Max ‘trying’ to give the position back. Both not wanting to be ahead into the DRS detection. Which they are both entitled to do given they weren’t interfering with any other cars and then it’s evidenced Max deliberately breaks again to cause the crash.

Do you think 10 seconds was fair enough?

I mean deliberately braking and it causing a crash would seem a complete no no to me.

{Ed001's Note - it is yet another soft penalty for one of the most dangerous manoeuvres possible on a race track. But it is Max and he is the poster boy so they are not going to upset the orange army by giving him a worthwhile penalty.}

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05 Dec 2021 20:01:05
Wow. Unpick that mess ED ????. what a crazy race and again some bizarre decisions.

I get he's entertaining and quick but some one surely has to tell max he can't drive with a I win or we crash style

{Ed001's Note - except the FIA will back him as he brings in crowds.}

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05 Dec 2021 18:26:33
Lets see what happens now then

{Ed001's Note - let's be honest Max wouldn't face punishment even if it wasn't counted back a lap.}

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05 Dec 2021 18:39:45
“This is my offer….”

Am I having some weird drug induced dream here or is the race director taking over the role of the stewards to reduce the impact of a potential penalty.

Absolute madness

{Ed001's Note - no, he is just trying to save the stewards having to make a ruling.}

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05 Dec 2021 18:41:24
Just heard Brundle watching the replay again and he wasn't sure and then decided Max was in the wrong after watching a few replays. It was obvious the first time.

{Ed001's Note - exactly.}

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05 Dec 2021 18:48:46
How long will the yellow tyres last. A bit of hammertime now .

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05 Dec 2021 19:31:26
Wow just Wow

{Ed001's Note - what a shambles.}

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05 Dec 2021 19:37:58
Pretty much Ed but looks like a win for Lewis

{Ed001's Note - they really need to look at the running of the sport though, the whole season has been shambolic, but this race has been a joke.}

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05 Dec 2021 19:46:47
Yeh they definitely tried somethings to stop the win. I thought VSC was supppsed to be quicker than a safety car. Not in this race seem to take a long time. Damaged car slower tyres and then the win. Down to the last race couldn't be better in the end. Totally agree on the season Ed.

{Ed001's Note - I expect Max will just run Lewis off the road.}

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05 Dec 2021 20:06:56
Exactly Ed they had a chance to stop all this. But it feels like giving half points for a non race at Spa started this as you say Shambles.

{Ed001's Note - that was just stupid and deliberately engineered.}

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05 Dec 2021 20:27:29
Max has the most wins this season so a Torpedo action will be expected next week.

{Ed001's Note - yep, he won't even try and race.}

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05 Dec 2021 22:57:59
Wow what's the point of that then do a brake test cause an accident, and no loss to the guilty party. As you said earlier Ed F1 and Fia are a shambles, I just hope Lewis goes on and finishes the job next weekend. Not sure if they want max to win or they don't want Lewis to break Schumachers record.

{Ed001's Note - I would say it is about wanting Max and his army of fans spending money.}

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06 Dec 2021 03:42:59
I donr think that was intentional. They were both playing with drs zone. Max was going slow waiting for Ham to pass as instructed by team. FIA rubbish the bed in not telling Merc on time that they were being handed the place back. The person deemed guilty for silverstone also had no loss by the way
The only issue here is FIA incompetence. i'm sure they are not trying to support any driver intentionally.

{Ed001's Note - I don't agree sorry. Max would move off the racing line unless he was being a dick, which he was. You often see a driver in that position wave his hand on the side he wants the other driver to pass, as they can't communicate straight to each other. Max did nothing but slow down on a corner. A long sweeping corner, yes, but it is still blind so Hamilton had no idea what was happening and Max could have simply been slowing to avoid an obstacle on his left or a marshal there on track etc. Either Max is a complete moron or he was trying to be a dick. There are no other options.

As for the FIA, they have gone out of their way to help Max this season because of his huge following. It is worth too much to them to have him win a title. I do not believe it is incompetence that every decision goes the way of Verstappen.}

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06 Dec 2021 10:36:02
Guess we'll have to disagree on this mate. No way Max is doing that to brake check Ham. FIA have in multiple occasions favoured Mercs this season too. Pit stops which were not an issue for all these years have become safety issue. Flexi wing drama was started by Mercs. They got FIA to change their tests for it.
FIA does every few years try subtly disadvantage dominant teams. Ferrari have suffered it, Mclaren have suffered it and even Redbull have suffered it. So there is no surprise they are trying to disadvantage Mercs.
Ham is the poster boy of F1. He is by far the most popular and recognisable asset for f1. He probably has double the number of people rooting for him than Max or any other driver ever will. Only Schumi came close to the following of Ham.

{Ed001's Note - flexi wing drama was started by Mercs? No mate, it was started by Red Bull cheating. The pit stops became an issue because they were so quick there were incidents happening which showed people were disregarding the safety regs in place.

And if you think Max was not brake testing Hamilton, then you know nothing about him. Just like you probably think he wasn't deliberately driving into Hamilton at Brazil or on each restart. Max was happy to take both of them out rather than give up the lead, that is exactly what all those incidents were about.

As for Hamilton being the poster boy, no mate, they have hung their hat on Verstappen as the next big thing, whereas Hamilton is seen as a fading force on his way out and close to leaving the sport. But they need Max to beat him before he does so or it will leave dissatisfaction amongst the fans that he is not really that good. Bit like Vettel never made it to be the big star he could have been because he didn't take it off a dominant champion at his peak. He inherited an empty throne.}

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07 Dec 2021 05:11:42
Wow Ed01, this reply is rather enlightening. I really couldn't agree more. The season is well and truly a joke. Just hope for a fair and entertaining end to it all. Hopefully, whoever wins it does so fair and square without the madness at Saudi.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed. Just keep it clean and win it on the track!}

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05 Dec 2021 00:16:04
Well if you go to FAST you hit the wall.

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28 Nov 2021 15:42:33
RIP Sir Frank Williams

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24 Nov 2021 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Formula 1: Qatar Talking Points

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22 Nov 2021 16:12:59
Everybody is really excited about this close title race and it is great to see. But I have one massive problem with it being so tight.

Let's say Max wins by less than 5 points.

Now I know you can point to specific instances all through a season to say it was won here or there and that's racing. But this season there appears to be something I still can't come to terms with.

Belgium.

When 1/2 points where awarded for a race that never happened. A result entirely manufactured by the FIA for their own purposes. Racing that day was never, ever a realistic option.

Maybe it's just me but it's been bothering me.

{Ed001's Note - agreed.}

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22 Nov 2021 11:47:43
Pleasing that we are heading for a down to the wire title fight but what a moral mess F1 is in.

I hate these late pens / reviews effecting the results days later but it's even worse when the wrong decision is made and the drivers all (bar 1) are left with questions.

The drivers pre race conference debacle should be enough to show masi is not the right man for the job. How can you enter a race weekend with so much confusion, that's his job to define the black and white and he has clearly failed.

On the actual decision, Suggesting the new onboard footage wasn't significant was laughable, I get not wanting to create a precedent for this kind of thing but just say that, say it was stewards choice end of, don't make this rubbish statements up like not significant when everyone can see it is. Laughable

The actual race itself turned out to be more or less a procession, a late VSC robbing us of any late entertainment.

End on a positive, great to see alonso on podium again. As big of a moaner as he was he is also a great driver

{Ed001's Note - personally I can't stick Alonso, he is tiresome with his whinging, I would much rather have seen Vettel of the ex-champs on the grid get that place.

Totally agree on the reviews, it was clear at the time that the wrong decision was made by the stewards, no one needed the onboard footage. But, once they had that, it had to be a simple case of giving a time penalty, just don't give enough to affect the result and be done with it.}

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21 Nov 2021 13:07:16
Well, that is it for Max. Karma catches up I guess! Bottas was mature about it, accepting it in good fate, as opposed to Max saying it wasn't his fault. whose fault was it then?
Red bull just seems nervous about the run in and would whine about anything these days. Get on with it!

{Ed001's Note - it was obviously Mercedes that did it, never Max.}

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21 Nov 2021 12:59:28
Here is hoping for a good race. Hope No. 44 smashes it. Great pace all weekend

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20 Nov 2021 13:52:12
Hi Ed just seeing Mr Horner moaning about the Mercs. I hope they are going to test all cars with this flexible rear wing test. But i suppose that's why there trying to fix there own cars before the test. Funny how Red Bulls problem doesn't help them, although if you run wide by turning late that's ok. Masi may have made a few problems for himself for the next few races.

{Ed001's Note - let's be honest, Red Bull are moaning purely because Mercs are now using the same cheat they have been using all season. Just get on with it and let the FIA look after that side of things.}

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